We have to name it, so that we can recognize it, and work over it. The relation between social work and labor unions dates back to the late 19th century, when Jane Addams and other settlement house leaders actively supported the nascent union movement including the Chicago garment workers and meat packer strikes. Matt:                    Oh, totally. Another union worker, 48 years old, who must remain lowkey, says Trump is “the first president I voted for, rather than just voting against the other guy.” Eric, a 51-year-old member of United Steelworkers Local 14200 in Marietta, Ohio, says he and his coworkers at their plastic plant are so supportive of Trump that they wear Trump 2020 stickers on their helmets at work. That typically, Right to Work states, the average household income is $3800 less, or something like that. Drew:                   Ambiance. Through unity with their male co-workers, shop floor organizing, strikes, and militancy, women demonstrated that they could secure union recognition, higher wages, and shorter work hours from their employers. In this article I was reading, they cited some studies around social worker attitudes in organizing. Matt:                    There was a time when we might all have been different unions. I, certainly, don't have a job just holding a space open for me, behind me over here. Drew:                   It's not our reality. Ondine:               Did you guys learn about this in school? Ondine:               Something else that stood out, and this really stood out. Ondine:               I learned that there were social workers in Baltimore, who joined the American Federation of Teachers Union, and were able to negotiate opportunities to discuss their workloads and their caseloads, to have those changed. Matt:                    Like Ondine said, I'm big into history. So, the argument that this writer was making was that, labor, if it's interested in attracting social workers, and organizing them, has to broaden the messaging, that the benefits of unionizing isn't just so that you get paid better, and you're treated better as a worker, but that it'll also impact the clients that we, then, serve. Ondine:               I was taken with how this was primarily about the services, then, and the way that they fail the patients. It's not perfect, but it's much better for them, and they receive more pay and power than before they were unionized. Drew:                   Thank you. Drew:                   Yeah. I think that could be a scary risk, too, because not all of us can just risk getting fired. Matt:                    And give you the chance to work on yourself, to work on what you need to do, so that you're not bringing all of your personal drama, or whatever the case may be, into your work with you all the time. A presentation at the National Conference of Social Work May 23-29, 1937. Matt:                    No, that's absolutely right. Drew:                   No, I don't think so. But, we need to start thinking about our own power, in organizing ourselves, as a way to mitigate the social conditions that Capitalism creates. Ondine:               That's okay. “Child labor” By Elie Bou Chaaya ENL 110 Section “D” Miss Zeina Fayyad 18, January, 2008 Outline: Thesis statement: Child labor nowadays is considered to be a social injustice due to its harmful effects on the personal and psychological life of the child where the kinds of work offered to the child increases the amount of these effects regarding the solutions. Ondine:               That died off, after the first World War. Ondine:               Here's one, that really resonated with me. Ondine:               Maybe less so about the actual material working conditions of the social workers, although those things go hand-in-hand. Search and apply for the latest Social work jobs in Union City, NJ. That thing happens. Matt:                    That's-, Ondine:               It's also a lot of pressure on you, that-. Or, some people will look at it, going back to the root of being in collaboration with labor, and really embracing those values and ideals as social workers. Some have called social workers the janitors of Capitalism. A collection of reflections for those learning and practicing psychotherapy, and clinical social work more generally. Matt:                    Okay. Drew:                   There's been some research that's shown that a higher percentage of people with Bachelor's of Social Works, or even paraprofessionals who don't even have a social work degree are more likely to favor unionization than MSWs. Matt:                    Yes. Matt:                    Yeah, bargain for better wages, better benefits, better working conditions, that sort of thing. Consequently, the relationship between the profession and the unions is still in its infancy. Chat transcript For this chat, we'll focus on the nature of organization labor, and the relationship of the profession of social work has with unionization. SWU. Drew:                   That's not the answer. Drew:                   Trade jobs. Ondine:               That's not what we need to be doing. Social workers were part of the National Women’s Trade Union League, and continued to ally with unions throughout the New Deal era. Learn labor unions social studies with free interactive flashcards. Drew:                   I think some people will still feel the ethical, moral dilemma of, what neutered, bad service I am able to provide is still better than nothing, and these people can't go without it. She's like, "Oh, I won't listen to it until there's 15.". Learning how we can destruct, dismantle the way we do social work practice that way, and thinking of it differently is, again, in the theme of what we're doing with this podcast, which is presenting a different way to do it, in a direction that is, probably, not going to be where you typically find social work practiced. When Capitalism leads to alienation, unemployment, substance use, and violence, it is social workers who often come in, to support the victims through the consequences." It gives you a great big organization at your back, that can hold your employer accountable, if there are any problems about OSHA violations, or any of those safety concerns. Drew:                   Making people pretty ... Galvanizing came out, and organizing. There was another example of a woman who was trying to get her husband access to mental healthcare, and really needed individualized therapy, and Kaiser wouldn't pay for it. Drew:                   It's intentionally confusing. This episode, we talk to a union organizer about the benefits of labor unions, why social workers specifically should seriously think about labor unionization, and a few things to expect if you do wanna take the first step at starting a social worker labor union. The reason I say you should find what's in town to begin with is because you don't really want to reinvent the wheel on organizing yourself or your friends. The practice has distanced itself from community organizing, and activist stuff, right? There is no workshop that can teach us the best way to eradicate decades of trauma and abuse, in one session.". We've got a Governor's race, here in our state this year, so getting out and talking to people, and making some space. Ondine:               So, if I'm a social worker, and let's say I work for, I don't know, I work for a non-profit organization. ". Ondine:               He sure doesn't. Drew:                   This social work stuff doesn't work if we're just replicating those hierarchies that just tear apart our society already. In the 1960s, an upstart union of New York City social workers forged alliances with welfare recipients while fighting to improve public services at the bargaining table. Amazon warehouse workers in Alabama have filed a petition to hold a union election, setting the stage for a high-profile labor battle inside the online retail giant. Who are Union Members? Ondine:               And not think it affects them. I might, in a seven-day period, be all that stands between somebody getting an eviction ordered against them or not. That's not the answer. Drew:                   It was 1890s, when it's recognized. Ondine:               Yeah. Drew:                   How does that correlate, if you can make the correlation, between the output of traditional trade labor services, versus social services, and that output being affected? I'm Matt. Drew:                   Also, this is a topic for a different episode, but it also leads me to wonder to myself, if a different work model all together is a better option, such as a cooperative? Drew:                   Probably a little cultural assimilation there. Drew:                   You can just address on issue over another. You gain so much more by working together than you do by working against each other. I'm just throwing this out here. OSLO — Some 262 oil service workers at Schlumberger’s Norwegian unit plan to go on strike from Dec. 3 if annual negotiations with employers over pay and working conditions were to fail, the Safe trade union said on Thursday. It is very evident, however, that the program of social work, especially in its governmental aspects, is receiving immense reinforcement from the present vitality in the trade-union movement. Meanwhile, he works hard every day, as a bilingual social worker at a housing development for low income mostly immigrant farm workers. There's no coincidence there, because you're bringing more and more people who are formally rural workers into cities, and that sort of thing. I'm a member of the United Food and Commercial Workers, Local 227. Ondine:               That's a really interesting thing to think about, because a lot of social workers work in settings that are interdisciplinary. Drew:                   Yeah, I feel like I've failed people. Drew:                   Maybe there is one, down the pipes. Which, in the podcast world, isn't very many episodes. Matt:                    Well, thank you all for having me on, among other things. Ondine:               That's a really good role, for us. Ondine:               I'm glad you said that, because another thing that I read was that the benefits of unions, for social workers, you can address things like wages, but also workplace safety. Matt:                    It took people going out on the street and actually fighting for this, and joining with one another, and three men dying to get that. The ASU covers workers in what is commonly termed the "non-government social and community services industry". Matt:                    Yeah, I'm trying to think. So, what do we stand to lose? Matt:                    That's why the eight-hour work day was so important, was because it gave you more free time, among other things, that you could do what you wanted, with your time. It is past time for social workers to unionize. They were like, these conditions, these material conditions are bigger than individual actions, and we can all support each other. What a union does is enable you to join with other people, typically people who do the same thing, or similar things, so that together you can ... Ondine:               Bargain, right? Note: This episode was recorded in October 2019, so while the conversation here is pure and timeless, please excuse a couple of out-of-time mentions about the Kentucky governor's race - cuz that already happened! Ondine:               This is going to be great. Matt:                    Yeah. Ondine:               We will get into this a bit more, but I think social workers often see themselves, in a lot of ways, as white collar professionals, which may or may not be true. Ondine:               So, Jane Adams, they consider her the Mother of Social Work. He is also just a couple of months away from earning his LISW credential. As a social work profession we need people with the leadership qualities who can start a trade union. Ondine:               Is that what you were trying to say? We just released our sixth episode." What Social Workers Do. Any school? There's no place, probably, more immediately felt in social workers than the exploitation of our labor. Ondine: As we were learning, and reading, and thinking about this, one of the suggestions that came up from a writer, a social worker and a writer, was that social workers need unions, social workers need to be unionized, but that, historically, because the labor movement has been so focused on trade unions, that their messaging has been about retirement, it's been about wages, it's been about benefits. right of workers to organize labor unions. This certainly shouldn't be the last time. We represent Social Workers in all specialisms, residential workers, social care workers, OTs, home care staff and … Teaching social workers to take better care of social workers. ... unions formed by labor workers. Onto, whatever, World War I. Matt:                    Or, whatever the next thing is. list of troublemakers, once on list, hard to find work. This association publishes a directory of accredited programs. You'd go to their homes, and essentially try to teach people how to live in a way that was more in line with, I guess, not being poor? 255 Social Work jobs available in Union County, NC on Indeed.com. Matt:                    Services, up to and including healthcare, and that sort of thing. Drew:                   Walking dogs. Consequently, the relationship between the profession and the unions is still in its infancy. I don't remember learning much about labor organizing, at any point, in my education. It was really, really fun. Ondine:               There's an altruism there. Ondine:               Is there anything else you'd like to add, Matt? Drew:                   I don't think unwell workers are going to be able to offer services that are going to make other people well. Drew:                   That we have to name, we have to recognize, we may intentionally or unintentionally be doing. For a social worker to meet utilization rates - they can't take vacation and they have to inhale their lunch (if at all). Really, not at all. Thanks! Matt:                    No. I could go on an on as to how the profession is treated poorly. If you're able to record conversations or stuff, maybe do that. Social & Community Services (SACS) The ASU is the largest union of workers in the social and community services (SACS) sector. Ondine:               That's right. 4,179 Union Social Worker jobs available on Indeed.com. Matt:                    So that you never stand to gain anything. Matt:                    All of that got subsumed. Social workers routinely talk about how overworked and underpaid they are - but why does it have to be this way? Drew:                   Yeah, I think that's helpful. 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